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  • divemedic

    As an educator, I can tell you this: If the nurses that attend any given ACLS class are typical, then the nursing profession is in just as dire straits as the EMT one. When you attend an ACLS class, a certain amount of knowledge is expected, such as the ability to recognize VF and VT on a monitor, and knowing what an IO is. Outside of the ED and the ICU, the vast majority of RNs I come in contact with do not possess that knowledge.

    Similarly, I have seen the same from quite a few Doctors. My opinion is that the medical profession places too great an emphasis on knowledge obtained, rather than PERTINENT knowledge obtained. Sure, it is great that a person made it through med school, but a podiatrist or oncologist has no business giving orders to an EMT or working in the ED.

    Since the vast majority of Doctors and Nurses do not work in Emergency medicine, I postulate that the vast majority of Doctors and Nurses do not possess the same level of pertinent knowledge that the average EMT or Paramedic does.

    Instead of placing emphasis on education for the sake of education, the medical profession needs to find a way to address this more than anything.

  • divemedic

    As an educator, I can tell you this: If the nurses that attend any given ACLS class are typical, then the nursing profession is in just as dire straits as the EMT one. When you attend an ACLS class, a certain amount of knowledge is expected, such as the ability to recognize VF and VT on a monitor, and knowing what an IO is. Outside of the ED and the ICU, the vast majority of RNs I come in contact with do not possess that knowledge.

    Similarly, I have seen the same from quite a few Doctors. My opinion is that the medical profession places too great an emphasis on knowledge obtained, rather than PERTINENT knowledge obtained. Sure, it is great that a person made it through med school, but a podiatrist or oncologist has no business giving orders to an EMT or working in the ED.

    Since the vast majority of Doctors and Nurses do not work in Emergency medicine, I postulate that the vast majority of Doctors and Nurses do not possess the same level of pertinent knowledge that the average EMT or Paramedic does.

    Instead of placing emphasis on education for the sake of education, the medical profession needs to find a way to address this more than anything.

  • Ambulance_Driver

    Divemedic, I attribute it to the new “kinder, gentler” ACLS. Once upon a time, people feared that course, and they prepared accordingly.

    Now, with AHA's ridiculously low standards, ACLS is within the reach of far more health care providers, so much so that the card is worth…

    … absolutely nothing.

  • Ambulance_Driver

    Divemedic, I attribute it to the new “kinder, gentler” ACLS. Once upon a time, people feared that course, and they prepared accordingly.

    Now, with AHA's ridiculously low standards, ACLS is within the reach of far more health care providers, so much so that the card is worth…

    … absolutely nothing.

  • Ambulance_Driver

    Divemedic, I attribute it to the new “kinder, gentler” ACLS. Once upon a time, people feared that course, and they prepared accordingly.

    Now, with AHA's ridiculously low standards, ACLS is within the reach of far more health care providers, so much so that the card is worth…

    … absolutely nothing.